Two-Headed Boy pt1 rip-offs H.C. Andersen's "Little Matchstick Girl" ???

[soniclovenoize]

I got the Little Mermaid remaster DVD the other day, and included in the wonderful bonus features was a new animated Disney short for another Han Christian Andersen story, The Little Matchstick Girl. I'd completely forgotten about this tale, having seen a live-action short on it when I was a kid, and it really touched me.

Anyways, I totally realized the plot of Two-Headed Boy pt 1 is completely inlfuenced by (dare I say "ripped off" but I don't wanna get flamed! How about "borrowed"???) The Little Matchstick Girl, and I can definitely see Mangum being influenced by HC Andersen... The Two-Headed Boy, trapped in a jar at the apocalypse, the only thing keeping his mind alive is his happy memories. And what about the last verse?

"Two headed boy
There is no reason to grieve
The world that you need is wrapped in gold silver sleeves
Left beneath Christmas trees in the snow
And I will take you and leave you alone
Watching spirals of white softly flow
Over your eyelids and all you did
Will wait until the point when you let go"

It completely parallels the death of The Little Matchstick Girl. Anyone else familiar wiht this? anyone else disagree/agree?

Anyone else get the Little Mermaid DVD? :p

[Edited on 10-9-0606 by soniclovenoize]

[idrankhemlock]

disagree

[Stormx]

I'll get a download of it going or something o.o never seen it

[samas]

the Little Matchstick Girl is really sad, the first time i saw it i cried....

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[David_R._Gross]

This sounds like an interesting topic. "The Little Matchstick Girl" is not familiar to me. I wander if it is one of those things that you experience as a child, but don't remember until something triggers its memory. An example in my own life, and keeping with the Disney theme, "Johnnie Fedora and Alice Bluebonnet." My ex girl friend was humming the chorus one day and I thought to myself, "hey I know that from some where." I asked her what it was, she pulled out a VHS it was on and We watched it. "Oh yea, I remember watching that as a child." I would have never remembered that with out the hummed trigger though.

I don't know maybe I'm just insane. Either way I will have to look into the connection /influence /ripoff/ borrowed matter furthur.




Fare Thee Well,

DRG

[Edited on 10-12-06 by David_R._Gross]

[tomatoesandradiowires]

So as a kid I fell asleep watching the brave little toaster and kept the plot alive in my dreams. It was just like the brave little toaster only he was trying to kill me, and I never heard about the movie again and was convinced it was a nightmare. a few days ago i saw it on tv and flipped out. "Disney stole my nightmare!"

[idrankhemlock]

im the one who gave jeff the idea

[Aqualad]

that's funny, you don't strike me as a two-headed boy at all

[idrankhemlock]

this is true..but i did tell him about this crazy dream i had and he turned it into a song for me..i pretty much inspired the whole of ITAOTS to tell you the truth

your welcome guys!

[Big-H]

Anne Frank reincarnated?!

[idrankhemlock]

Originally posted by Big-H
Anne Frank reincarnated?!
yep. that little boy in Spain stuff was just a cover up..he really doesn't want the secret to get out...but i'm tired of hiding

[Aqualad]

and in that case i'd like to take a look at your piano.

[idrankhemlock]

im not a little boy in Spain..sorry to disappoint

[Edited on 10-14-0606 by idrankhemlock]

[Ldopa]

is any1 gonna bother to explain what is similar about two headed boy and this other story that it supposedly ripped off?

[tomatoesandradiowires]

It's totally at the top of my To-do list. I'm just waiting for the best possible moment.

[ejwilson]

"Then she saw a star fall, leaving behind it a bright streak of fire. “Someone is dying,” thought the little girl, for her old grandmother, the only one who had ever loved her, and who was now dead, had told her that when a star falls, a soul was going up to God."

thats a couple lines from the same story but it kinda reminds me of holland 1945...

[Aqualad]

sounds like all of jeff's writing condensed.

[idrankhemlock]

you guys are crazy

[powerlinehorizon]

i'll meet you on that other shore

[theoperahouse]

someone tell disney so they can sue him

[soniclovenoize]

Originally posted by Ldopa
is any1 gonna bother to explain what is similar about two headed boy and this other story that it supposedly ripped off?
WOW, SOMEONE CARES ABOUT THIS THREAD!?!??! ;)

But seriously, I have not read the story so I cannot quote lines or anything, only just seen two adoptations of the story (one being the Disney thing, the other being an un-named live action one from when I was a kid...).

Anyways, the story goes (and corrcet me if I'm wrong here)...
The Little Matchstick Girl and her family are very poor. It's Christmas Eve and they send her out into the cold night to sell matchsticks for $$$ because they have no food or anything. Hours later, no one wants to buy them. She sees others walk buy... walking to thier happy homes and warm food and presents etc., and she is sad because she wishes she had all that. Anyways, she sits down in an empty alleyway, exhausted from the cold. She has like 3 matchsticks left. To keep warm, she lights the match sticks to keep from freezing to death: as she stares into the flame, each turns into a wish: food, presents, etc. And she is happy for the moment only as each match is lit. As the last flame goes out, she sees her grandmother rescuing her and bringing her home to a warm fire, meal and Christmas joy. In actuality, she is dead, frozen to death after the last matchstick expired.

Yeah, so, in relation to Two-Headed Boy, he is trapped in a jar at the end of the world, and what keeps him alive is his happy memories, specificly a radio he built for his girlfriend. And then of course, the aformentioned final verse about "spirals of white" and "letting go".

Anyone else see this? Or does no-one even know that's what Two-Headed Boy is about?

[powerlinehorizon]

dumb

[idrankhemlock]

Originally posted by powerlinehorizon
dumb
QFT

[powerlinehorizon]

?

[idrankhemlock]

lawl?