graduation/star wars

[NoHarshChemicals]

Would you fancy that. I'm graduating tomorrow. In other slightly related news I saw Star Wars today and it was pretty darn enjoyable if I do say so myself. Has anyone else seen it? What'd you think?

[William]

The Graduate is better. Though I haven't see Star Wars.

[NoHarshChemicals]

I am the graduate. I'm graduating from high school my friend.

[paulpaul]

heh heh heh heh :D

another year for me to graduate....
the exciteing part about star wars is that it is pg-13
and all the others were pg... so... it must be good! did you guys like the first two.. cause they were kinda... iffy in my opinion

[Edited on 5-20-2005 by paulpaul]

[MrG]

I am graduating from my star wars into all out nebula wars.

Mike

[NoHarshChemicals]

graduation was fun. Apparently I officially have a complete high school education now. Star Wars IS good and I really didn't mind episode I & II. I think people should just be greatful that George Lucas decided to make the movies. It brings alot of closure to the whole experience.

[birdman]

I dont mean to be rude, but I think George Lucas was a fool to make those movies. Somethings are better left off dead. They were one of them. Where as hypothetically the three would have been feasible if made with in say 5 years of the first 3, since they were not, however, they could be nothing but disapointment. The movies were trying to fill a shoe it could never fit. So where as, yes, the movies brought closure, it also brought major disapointment, major annoyance, and associations that are forever going to rob the star wars unvierse of its slight holiness. i see these movies more as a marketing tool to make money then as a continuation of the original motivation that went into the original star wars. i would have rather been left with my imagination and a book to fill in the blanks than witness the superficiality of these new films.

[NoHarshChemicals]

I suppose the length of time between movies was a factor. My girlfriend and I were discussing how three years ago our first date was to watch Star Wars Episode II. So three years between this movie and the last one is a bit too much, not to mention how much time there was between the first and second.

[WandaLeeandtheDrumMachine]

the third one was good, the second was allright, the first was aweful...

of course the whole thing was for lucas and his bank accounts, but all the same im glad he made them, and between you and me I hope he makes 7,8, and 9...

everyone has ulterior motives thats just the way it is, the fact that lucas does then should not be a big deal...

and as for acting - anakin's acting was on par with luke and leigha's....

[lerok22]

Episode I was okay, not great. Episode II I enjoyed a decent amount. But Episode III I absolutely loved. I think it's better than RoTJ. Just my opinion though.

And I don't think I'd like to see 7, 8, and 9. First off, even if they were good, people would bash them just on the principle of it. Plus I see the whole series as the rise to the dark side of Anakin Skywalker and then his redmeption. Ones after 7 would fall out of that cycle.

[hypecity]

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[Edited on 3-22-0606 by hypecity]

[jaimi]

I am graduating in 13 days. Ceremonies and holidays are like soda in the way that they leave me feeling gassy and somewhat sick afterwards, with a syrupy aftertaste.

I'm not much into Star Wars but a few of my friends were very pleased with the film. One of them is so into it he got a Star Wars tattoo on his arm when he turned 18. (He bears a freakish resemblance to Perry Farell crossed with Artie, the Strongest Man in the world.)

[uncle eggma]

i personally enjoyed the hell out of the new star wars, but then again, if i hadn't been raised on that story i probably wouldn't have liked as well...it's more just a nostalgia thing...they did show a preview of the chronicles of narnia: the lion the witch and the wardrobe...which i also absolutely loved as a child! cs lewis was just as good if not better at weaving a master myth!

[birdman]

I would hope that C.S. Lewis was much better than lucas rather than just as good...

[paulpaul]

Originally posted by WandaLeeandtheDrumMachine
the third one was good, the second was allright, the first was aweful...



i couldnt agree more, cept the third i might give a great

[birdman]

have any of you ever seen the hidden fortress. that's great.

[WandaLeeandtheDrumMachine]

cs lewis is on par with tolkien both far superior to lucas

[NoHarshChemicals]

i missed the preview for the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe because a i was sent to buy milk duds and a soda :-\

[uncle eggma]

yeah i meant as good or better than tolkien, but i left out his name...i wasn't pretaining to george lucas.

[Edited on 5-23-2005 by uncle eggma]

[BigBlackSmoke]

my friend made a light saber out of sink parts and it really lights up

[WandaLeeandtheDrumMachine]

no i know what you meant i just threw in tolkien in there for comparison.... but its kinda not fair since both of them were writing a book and therefore had much more freedom while lucas was trying to write screenplays. ah well

[hypecity]

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[Edited on 3-22-0606 by hypecity]

[hypecity]

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[Edited on 3-22-0606 by hypecity]

[NoHarshChemicals]

leave poor cs lewis and his crazy christianity (alliteration woo woo) alone.

[DrinkTeaEatBooks]

Originally posted by hypecity
I would argue that Tolkien is much much much better than Lewis. Middle Earth is 983844 times more intriguing and complex than Narnia, and it doesn't have any of that subversive Christian bullshit, either.


I find the two to be very opposite experiences. Lewis' work packs a great amount of information into a very small page count, thereby making the books continually exciting and wonderful to read. Tolkien takes a lot of information, and feels he has to elaborate on everything he writes, leading to endless diversions which only serve to make the Lord of the Rings a far less interesting or rewarding read.
But I think your argument is pretty much redundant anyway, given as one is writing children's fiction, whilst the other is writing for adult audiences.

[hypecity]

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[Edited on 3-22-0606 by hypecity]

[everythingfallstogether]

i've never saw a star wars film in my life :mad:

[DrinkTeaEatBooks]

Sure, Lewis' books aren't exactly jam-packed with mythology in the same way as Tolkien's are, but this is because he's writing for a different audience. Their worlds are incomparable, in my opinion, because of this. However, there is a hell of a lot of material which is only touched on in the Narnia books that could easily be elaborated on if Lewis had elected to - for example, in the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, a lot of the devices Lewis uses (the stone table, the deep and deeper magic) are only touched upon, due to the book's target audience - they only need to be understood, and a child's imagination can fill in the gaps.

However, (and correct me if I'm wrong for the most part - I've only read the first book of the trilogy, I didn't really see the attraction) Tolkien often feels the need to provide a historical backing for a lot of the locations and ideas in the books, which is fine, but hardly applicable to kids. It's just their different writing styles - while Tolkien chooses to elaborate, Lewis leaves it to the reader's imagination. I haven't read the Space series to compare, but you can, however, compare the Narnia series to the Hobbit - and it's pretty clear to see that Tolkien, even when working in childrens fiction, chooses to elaborate, meaning that the Hobbit reads at a far slower pace than any of the Narnia tales, though, at least in my opinion, there is just as much of an interesting background to Lewis' tales as there is in Tolkien's work. Lewis just leaves it up to the imagination a lot more.

:)

[Edited on 23-5-2005 by DrinkTeaEatBooks]

[ladylamentingonalawnchair]

CS Lewis' sf trilogy (Perelandra, Out of the Silent Planet, I can't remember the name of the third one) is pretty awful, though I loved the Narnia books as a youth. The religious symbolism (the stone table etc) feels pretty heavy-handed to me as an adult, and the only Narnia book I can read and enjoy now is the Dawn Treader, which never ceases to be awesome.

I have no plans at all to see the Sith movie.

Congratulations, graduates.

[birdman]

so the question is, now that all of you have graduated, what are you going to do with your life....:(

[ihavenoface]

I was one of the many to see the premier of star wars at 12:01 a.m.
It was an enjoyable experience, the line, the fights, the games and such.

[dolemites_sister]

So I went to see Star Wars.... I think its much better than the first two, but whoever said it was better than Return of the Jedi is wacky! I had some problems with the story line, but I thought Hayden Christenson did a very good job in this one. He didn't do so great in the last onel

The preview for the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe looked awesome.

And my two cents is this.... Tolkien, Lucas AND Lewis all have religous undertones to their work. C.S. Lewis is just more obvious.